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Doug33

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:55 pm
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I just ordered the basic Prius with no packages. They were outside my
budget. Can anyone comment on the basic model? How does the CD player sound
with the six speakers?

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Mark

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:55 pm
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The stock speakers are probably the same as were in my Matrix, and
leave a lot to be desired (made in Mexico). Get a decent set of MB
Quarts or even Pioneers and it will make a big difference if you like
music. They are fairly easy to change out.

Not sure how you arrived at the Prius decision, but I think I would
rather have a full-dress Corolla or maybe a Matrix, and save the extra
money the Prius costs for the small additional gas cost. I think you
come out better in the end. JMHO.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:55 am
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>
> Not sure how you arrived at the Prius decision, but I think I would
> rather have a full-dress Corolla or maybe a Matrix, and save the extra
> money the Prius costs for the small additional gas cost. I think you
> come out better in the end. JMHO.
>

Thanks for the sound system tips. I chose the Prius because I do a lot of
driving mainly due to my commute to work.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:18 am
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:48 am
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....and only driving 20 miles a day... which means it takes years to
recoup the cost (not to mention voiding your warranty, no doubt).
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:02 am
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Nonsense... read more carefully

"He's part of a small but growing movement. "Plug-in" hybrids aren't
yet cost-efficient, but some of the dozen known experimental models
have gotten up to 250 mpg."

For an extra investment of "only" $3,000 that guy gets 80mpg as long as
he goes no more than 20 miles a day (and by the way has voided his
warranty). It will take many years to recoup his cost. It's a nice
experiment, but not much more than that at this point.
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Dan J.S.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:12 am
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"Mark" wrote in message

> The stock speakers are probably the same as were in my Matrix, and
> leave a lot to be desired (made in Mexico). Get a decent set of MB
> Quarts or even Pioneers and it will make a big difference if you like
> music. They are fairly easy to change out.
>
> Not sure how you arrived at the Prius decision, but I think I would
> rather have a full-dress Corolla or maybe a Matrix, and save the extra
> money the Prius costs for the small additional gas cost. I think you
> come out better in the end. JMHO.
>

Neighbor just got the Prius, initially I was against hybrids, but this new
generation of Priuses are something else. The car has great pickup, quiet,
and all the gizmos make my gadgets cravings want one.

So I think the Prius is probably the best bet right now. Corolla and Matrix
would only be a good bet if Toyota decided to make them e-85 compatible. By
my house, regular fuel is 2.56 a gallon. E-85 is 1.89 a gallon...
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Dan J.S.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:44 am
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"Mark" wrote in message

> Nonsense - read more carefully
>

Still - u can get 80 MPG by doubling the batteries.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:55 pm
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Dan J.S. wrote:

> So I think the Prius is probably the best bet right now. Corolla and Matrix
> would only be a good bet if Toyota decided to make them e-85 compatible. By
> my house, regular fuel is 2.56 a gallon. E-85 is 1.89 a gallon...

I'd expect a 26% discount since most people report getting 25-30% fewer
miles per gallon using E-85 than straight gasoline. Ethanol has
significantly less energy per gallon than gasoline, so you're
looking at the same _cost_ per mile using E85.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:55 pm
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Mark wrote:
> ...and only driving 20 miles a day... which means it takes years to
> recoup the cost (not to mention voiding your warranty, no doubt).

And he *still* doesn't get 80 MPG unless the guy stole the extra batteries
AND the electricity to keep them charged.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:09 pm
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if you do alittle reading you will see that the 250mpg hybrid is plugged in at night to give it the extra power boost, it doesnt solely run on gas to recharge the batteries. your limited by science when it comes to how many MPG you get. 1 gallon of gas can only produce so much energy. so you may get 250mpg, but your house electric bill shoots up $10-500 a month (depending on how much you drive). and while its still cheaper than gas, its not the massive savings you think you are getting. power has to come from somewhere, and while you can come up with ways to use less, you cant magicly create more.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:55 pm
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On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 00:31:59 GMT, "Doug" wrote:

>I just ordered the basic Prius with no packages. They were outside my
>budget. Can anyone comment on the basic model? How does the CD player sound
>with the six speakers?


Having the tweaters up higher definitely helps. I've heard worse
speakers in my f350, but I replaced them. If I knew how the door
panels came off on the prius I might replace those too, but a simpler
way to connect my xm skyfi is higher on my priority list at present.
At least the Prius speakers have enough treble to understand the words
in songs, that's better than Ford managed.
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Dan J.S.

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:42 pm
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"xmirage2kx" wrote in message

> "" wrote:
> > Mark wrote:
> > > ...and only driving 20 miles a day... which means it takes
> > years to
> > > recoup the cost (not to mention voiding your warranty, no
> > doubt).
> >
> > And he *still* doesn't get 80 MPG unless the guy stole the
> > extra batteries
> > AND the electricity to keep them charged.
>
> if you do alittle reading you will see that the 250mpg hybrid is
> plugged in at night to give it the extra power boost, it doesnt solely
> run on gas to recharge the batteries. your limited by science when it
> comes to how many MPG you get. 1 gallon of gas can only produce so
> much energy. so you may get 250mpg, but your house electric bill
> shoots up $10-500 a month (depending on how much you drive). and while
> its still cheaper than gas, its not the massive savings you think you
> are getting. power has to come from somewhere, and while you can come
> up with ways to use less, you cant magicly create more.
>

However if you plug a car in, you can then use nuclear energy to get your
electricity, dropping the demand for arab oil. i think out priority is to
use other energy sources as soon as possible.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 12:55 am
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Chris Hill wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 00:31:59 GMT, "Doug" wrote:
>
>> I just ordered the basic Prius with no packages. They were outside my
>> budget. Can anyone comment on the basic model? How does the CD
>> player sound with the six speakers?
>
>
> Having the tweaters up higher definitely helps. I've heard worse
> speakers in my f350, but I replaced them. If I knew how the door
> panels came off on the prius I might replace those too, but a simpler
> way to connect my xm skyfi is higher on my priority list at present.
> At least the Prius speakers have enough treble to understand the words
> in songs, that's better than Ford managed.

If you drive a used, base Fiesta. Other Ford models are as good and
frequently better than your Prius.
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